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Post by acres on Dec 7, 2017 21:14:14 GMT
Hi, My herbalist wants me to start taking the following tonic, 1 teaspoon 3 times a day : Echinacea 2pts Cryptolopis 1.5 pts Propolis .5 pts
What do you think ? I guess I am looking for a second opinion on this treatment for my upper respiratory issues (headaches are back, swollen glands under jaw, now pain behind the ears, sinus pain, exhaustion, brain fog, difficulty concentrating, which could be my anxiety) She thinks since my symptoms are very very slowly improving (except for that 1 step back last week) it what be a good idea to upgrade the tonics in strength to "kick butt" (my phrase, not hers)
I asked her about Cats Claw and Japanese Knotweed and she preferred to go this route instead....It is very confusing...
I will still take the Andrographis complex tablets, the Immuplex amd Thymex... Thanks, Scott
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Post by Admin/ Traveler on Dec 7, 2017 21:22:11 GMT
Personally, I would hesitate doing what's she's suggesting. Headaches, swollen glands under the jaw, pain behind the ears, sinus pain, brain fog, exhaustion, difficulty thinking are all herx symptoms as well - especially if they are new or worsening. I'd be looking at increasing my detoxing rather than stepping up my treatments so that I have even more toxins 'free flowing' through my body.
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Post by kb69 on Dec 7, 2017 21:23:50 GMT
Hi Scott,
I can't speak to that specific tonic. But, my LLND prescribed Sida Acuta and Isatis for me to use in treating Bartonella. I haven't been able to start it yet because I'm still trying to establish a basic routine with Bicillin injections for Lyme.
What surprised me was that she didn't recommend Houttuynia, which I've read (in Buhner, in particular) as the usual pairing for Sida. She did put me on JK, but when I asked about Cat's Claw, she said she wanted to "save it for later." I haven't heard of too many people using Isatis, so that surprised me, too.
I know this is as much as art as science. Given her assessment of your symptoms, she must think this is the best mix.
Sorry I don't have a direct response, but I've been in the same situation, Kelly
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Post by kb69 on Dec 7, 2017 21:25:02 GMT
And, I certainly defer to Traveler on the symptoms!
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Post by acres on Dec 7, 2017 21:39:21 GMT
Hi, Thank you for the replies!
Ok, I think I will let her send me the tonic (so it's here) and continue the Andro, Immuplex and THymex.....But hold off on taking it... I will increase my detoxing, brushing, lemon water, the Epsom/hp bathes and add the detox tea you use (can't think of the name, could you please refresh my memory) I ordered red root, but it has not arrived yet, hopefully soon....(for my lymph nodes) I am doing 1 foot bath and 1 regular bath a day. Maybe I should add another foot bath to my day ?
I eat 2 teaspoons of Manuka Honey everyday, does that have propolis in it ?
Ok, head is spinning. I am just an average guy, never good in science, chemistry, math.....etc....lol Scott
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Post by Admin/ Traveler on Dec 7, 2017 21:45:31 GMT
Hi, Thank you for the replies!
Ok, I think I will let her send me the tonic (so it's here) and continue the Andro, Immuplex and THymex.....But hold off on taking it... I will increase my detoxing, brushing, lemon water, the Epsom/hp bathes and add the detox tea you use (can't think of the name, could you please refresh my memory) I ordered red root, but it has not arrived yet, hopefully soon....(for my lymph nodes) I am doing 1 foot bath and 1 regular bath a day. Maybe I should add another foot bath to my day ?
I eat 2 teaspoons of Manuka Honey everyday, does that have propolis in it ?
Ok, head is spinning. I am just an average guy, never good in science, chemistry, math.....etc....lol Scott
Welcome to the school of hard knocks!!! LOL! Be prepared to be confused!! If you were asking me about the detox tea, I prefer to use Yogi brand regular flavor detox tea: Yogi detox tea If, after you give the detoxing a chance to help out, you don't feel even a little bit of relief, then it could be that you need to start the new stuff - just be very careful when you do. If it increases your symptoms too much, stop treatment until you can detox your body yet further. Otherwise you could get caught up in a cytokine storm, which is not only scary, but dangerous. And, remember we are here to help guide you! So, keep asking questions!
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Post by acres on Dec 7, 2017 22:01:58 GMT
Yogi, got it..Thanks for the link ! Just googled cytokine storm...Yikes ! Interesting information though.... Ok, I have a game plan.....Thank you soooo much !!!!! Scott
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Post by Admin/ Traveler on Dec 7, 2017 22:14:43 GMT
Great!! Do be sure to let us know how you are doing from time to time!!!! And, of course, the very best of luck as you move forward with this!
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Post by alexalex on Dec 11, 2017 7:32:44 GMT
sounds well
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Post by acres on Dec 16, 2017 20:01:49 GMT
Hi, With the exception of the swollen glands. the other symptoms had decreased in intensity so I took 1 teaspoon of the new tonic yesterday and about 2 hours later I felt like I was hit by a truck. Just 1 teaspoon !!! I went into detox mode, foot bath, dry brush and shower, lemon water and raw apple cider vinegar, lymph massage and managed to fell better.... Then, when I went to bed I had a huge anxiety attack, had to take some Xanax, which I do not like to take, but I could not fall asleep...
Today I feel better (lymph nodes still annoying including in front of the ears)...Slept for 10 hours !! Thank you !!
PS: I am very curious about Sida Acuta....I may try it soon....
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Post by Admin/ Traveler on Dec 16, 2017 21:23:29 GMT
Hi, With the exception of the swollen glands. the other symptoms had decreased in intensity so I took 1 teaspoon of the new tonic yesterday and about 2 hours later I felt like I was hit by a truck. Just 1 teaspoon !!! I went into detox mode, foot bath, dry brush and shower, lemon water and raw apple cider vinegar, lymph massage and managed to fell better.... Then, when I went to bed I had a huge anxiety attack, had to take some Xanax, which I do not like to take, but I could not fall asleep...
Today I feel better (lymph nodes still annoying including in front of the ears)...Slept for 10 hours !! Thank you !!
PS: I am very curious about Sida Acuta....I may try it soon....
So, let's start with a reminder of what's in the new tonic that you are taking: My herbalist wants me to start taking the following tonic, 1 teaspoon 3 times a day : Echinacea 2pts Cryptolopis 1.5 pts Propolis .5 pts Echinacea will boost the immune system to get into the action with killing the bacteria. Propolis has some antibacterial actions and Cryptolepis has antibacterial, antimalarial (works on the Babesia infections), antimicrobial, antiparasitic, antiprotozoal, antiviral and a renal (kidney) vasodialator (dialates the blood vessels). Buhner: Herbal Antibiotics book (you'll have to scroll up to the top reference to see this list, for some reason it will only start out at near the end, in the Bibliography!) So, it's with good reason why you had such issues, especially since you started on the full dose! I always, always start new herbs and things at a much reduced dose than what is expected for me to take, and work my way up in dosages until I reach the full dose slowly and carefully, so as to avoid serious herxing. Very, very happy to hear that you were able to sleep like that though!!! I would encourage you to start off with only 1/2 a teaspoon or less though.
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